From Colin's Bench

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:47 pm

Hi Everyone,

This is the first milling job that wasn't for another Jeweller, so I've finally got the chance to cast, clean up & take a photo of the finished item.
It's a logo for a local Church group called the Winepress, hence the grapes & W.
They wanted their logo for tie pins, badges, pendants, etc, so this is the master pattern.
The piece is 20mm long x 15mm wide with the back hollowed out.
Finished pieces will have matt texture on grapes with polished W.

Colin

JewelryDoctor · Post by **JewelryDoctor** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 6:20 pm

Neat design. Did you design or was it theirs. Hope to see more of your work.

Happy Milling,
Michael

Post by **jeff dunnington** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:37 pm

That would have been a fun one to do the old fashion way.

Nice work!

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:51 pm

Thanks Michael,
It's their design but needed to play around a bit in 3D Engrave to get the desired result.
Check out the 3de. file, if you like.
Note: It's been moved to the 3D Engrave forum.

Colin

frog113 · Post by **frog113** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 3:21 am

thanks for showing your work
have beem downloading several designs to see how you guys are doing the reliefs etc

Jwlrymkr · Post by **Jwlrymkr** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 11:00 am

Well Done Again Colin!
Looks like a change of pace from the other stuff you've been working on lately

Ken

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:35 pm

Here's one of the first of the finished pieces in 9ctYG weighs 3.5gms.
Matt/satin finish applied with diamond burr.
Came out well & customer is very happy.

Thanks, Colin

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:40 pm

Here's two waxes that have been made for other Jewellers.

Pendant of Diana from Greek Mythology.
Milled pendant background, the "Diana" insert was hand carved.
(until I can figure out how to do this on the mill?)
I believe that this is to be cast in 18ctYG

The RAN logo was a straight forward milling job.
This is to be the front/top plate of a hinged locket, to hold photos.
I believe that the locket will be in StgSil.

JewelryDoctor · Post by **JewelryDoctor** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:54 pm

Colin that is awesome. I am very curious about your sculpture work. What type of tools do you use? The detail is incredible. I has always admired people who could do work like that. Did you learn from classes or are you self taught. I really enjoy seeing your work keep on posting when you can.

Michael

Post by **jeff dunnington** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:58 pm

Colin

Nice carving. The way you can apply the mill to that kind of work is,

With your sculpting abilities you can carve or model a master in wax or clay then Picza scan it. You would not have to do it to scale because you can make those changes in 3de and also mirror or inverse. I think this would be an incredible tool for you.

The possibilities are limitless

Like to see the finished charm of Diana

Jwlrymkr · Post by **Jwlrymkr** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:17 pm

Colin, I am blown away and envious at your carving skills!
You got the skills bro!
Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing with us.
Ken

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:15 am

Thanks guys, for all the nice compliments.

In Australia there's no formal training in regards to wax carving, so I'm mostly self taught.
I did my apprenticeship at a large factory & learnt hand skills mainly suited to mass production work, but no wax carving.

Members of the Gold & Silversmiths Guild of Australia try to pass on their skills & knowledge to Apprentices, Students & other Jewellers.
As a Guild Member, I've recently been asked to teach classes on the hand carving of wax.

Tools that I use are dental probes, gravers & a wax welder.
I tend to work from a lump & carve away excess wax then build up areas as needed with the wax welder.

I had thought of carving in a larger scale, then scanning the item.
My only concern with that idea was getting rid of the "stepped ribs" that come from milling curved surfaces, would create more work?
At the moment, I'm looking at using the Mill to rough out basic contour shapes that I need for hand carving, to save time.
I'll let you know how I go.

regards Colin

JewelryDoctor · Post by **JewelryDoctor** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 8:55 am

Colin, I would love for you to post a poto of your shop. It is always interesting to see where people work and how they set things up. As to the step ribs, have you used a ball endmill. Just a thought. Thanks again for showing us your work. G'day

Michael

Post by **jeff dunnington** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:47 am

Colin

I agree with JD. The stepped rib look you are talking about can be near completely eliminated using your ball end mills I sent you.

This picture of a bezel I scanned then milled was done with a .040 ball end with the cutting parameters I supplied. This wax was not touched and you can see how smooth it came out.

Give the scanning & milling a try and let me know how it goes.

I think this would be an incredible tool for you.

Colin Creed · Post by **Colin Creed** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:20 am

Thanks guys,

Michael, as soon as I can get hold of a digital camera I'll post some photos of my workshop. (originally my garage)
How did I take photos of those waxes, I hear you ask?
I use an old Kodak webcam that's connected to my office computer via USB cable (wont reach to workshop)

Jeff, I've only been using your parameters for all my cutting.
I use the small ballmills for nearly all my milling jobs.
Don't know why, but I still seem to get a fine step on curved areas?
Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Don't know?

Just recently scanned an earring for another Jeweller, so that it could be mirrored & both images milled larger as master patterns.
Design had lots of curved slopes & holes within it. A very organic design.
I used a 0.010" ballmill for finish pass, which left steps within the curves?
I never got a chance to take a photo of the waxes, so I'll redo this job & see if the same results come out.
Will post photos & let you know the results.

regards Colin

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